{"id":300,"date":"2006-08-29T14:16:19","date_gmt":"2006-08-29T14:16:19","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/elli.annall.is\/2006-08-29\/14.16.19"},"modified":"2006-08-29T14:16:19","modified_gmt":"2006-08-29T14:16:19","slug":"141619","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/2006\/08\/29\/141619\/","title":{"rendered":"Vi\u00f0br\u00f6g\u00f0 vi\u00f0 gagnr\u00fdni"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u00cd kj\u00f6lfar f\u00e6rslunnar minnar Vantr\u00fa skv. kenningum um ja\u00f0arh\u00f3pa<\/a> birtust \u00e1 Vantr\u00faarvefnum \u00e1g\u00e6t vi\u00f0br\u00f6g\u00f0 vi\u00f0 henni undir yfirskriftinni Feilskot dj\u00e1knans<\/a>. H\u00e9r fyrir ne\u00f0an er svar mitt vi\u00f0 \u00feeirri grein. En svari\u00f0 birtist upphaflega sem umm\u00e6li \u00e1 Vantr\u00faarvefnum.<\/p>\n

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\u00deakka ykkur fyrir \u00e1g\u00e6ta gagnr\u00fdni \u00e1 grein m\u00edna. Sem \u00e9g vi\u00f0urkenni a\u00f0 hafi veri\u00f0 a\u00f0 m\u00f6rgu leiti k\u00e6ruleysislega unnin. Til a\u00f0 einfalda umr\u00e6\u00f0una \u00fe\u00e1 held \u00e9g \u00fev\u00ed EKKI fram \u00ed grein minni a\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 s\u00e9u\u00f0 \u00e1 m\u00f3ti kristinfr\u00e6\u00f0ikennslu enda veit \u00e9g betur. \u00deannig a\u00f0 segja m\u00e1 a\u00f0 vi\u00f0 s\u00e9um samm\u00e1la um re-active \u00fe\u00e1ttinn nema hva\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 telji\u00f0 a\u00f0 m\u00e9r hafi or\u00f0i\u00f0 \u00e1 \u00feegar \u00e9g benti \u00e1 harkalegar deilur ykkar vi\u00f0 annan tr\u00faleysingja. \u00dea\u00f0 m\u00e1 vera a\u00f0 \u00fearna hafi \u00e9g lesi\u00f0 meira \u00ed \u00fe\u00e6r deilur en \u00e1st\u00e6\u00f0a var til. \u00c9g s\u00e9 \u00fe\u00f3 ekki a\u00f0 svo s\u00e9.<\/p>\n

\u00de\u00e1 langar mig strax \u00ed upphafi a\u00f0 nefna \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 ekkert neikv\u00e6tt felst \u00ed sj\u00e1lfu s\u00e9r \u00ed \u00feeim \u00fe\u00e1ttum sem einkenna ja\u00f0arh\u00f3pa skv. skilgreiningum \u00feeim sem \u00e9g notast vi\u00f0. \u00deegar \u00feessir fimm \u00fe\u00e6ttir koma hins vegar saman og eiga allir vi\u00f0 \u00e1 sama t\u00edma, er \u00e1st\u00e6\u00f0a til a\u00f0 hafa varann \u00e1 a\u00f0 mati R. Scott Appleby og Martin E Marty. Reyndar bendir kat\u00f3likkinn Dr. Appleby \u00e1 a\u00f0 allir \u00feessir \u00fe\u00e6ttir eigi vi\u00f0 um starf M\u00f3\u00f0ur Teresu \u00e1 Indlandi, \u00feannig a\u00f0 e.t.v. er ekki lei\u00f0um a\u00f0 l\u00edkjast e\u00f0a hva\u00f0?<\/p>\n

\u00c9g a\u00f0hyllist algildan sannleik l\u00edkt og \u00fei\u00f0. En eins og \u00fei\u00f0 segi\u00f0, hann birtist okkur me\u00f0 \u00f3l\u00edkum h\u00e6tti. \u00c9g tek undir me\u00f0 ykkur um ykkur um a\u00f0 fj\u00f6lmargir h\u00f3par eru “re-active\u0094 og \u00fea\u00f0 er fr\u00e1b\u00e6rt. A\u00f0rir h\u00f3par eiga \u00ed s\u00edfelldri bar\u00e1ttu. \u00c9g myndi reyndar ekki setja \u00dej\u00f3\u00f0dansaf\u00e9lagi\u00f0 undir \u00feann hatt, en \u00e9g hef svo sem aldrei lent \u00ed \u00feeim.<\/p>\n

Tv\u00edhyggjan er erfi\u00f0ur \u00fe\u00e1ttur. \u00c9g skil hugmyndir um tv\u00edhyggju mj\u00f6g tr\u00faarlegum skilningi og v\u00edsa \u00fear \u00ed hugmyndir Plat\u00f3. Sl\u00edkri tv\u00edhyggju s\u00fdnist m\u00e9r a\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 hafni\u00f0. S\u00fa f\u00e9lagslega tv\u00edhyggja sem \u00fei\u00f0 j\u00e1ti\u00f0 fellur \u00fe\u00f3 hugsanlega undir \u00feennan h\u00e1tt eins og \u00e9g velti upp og Carlos \u00fdjar a\u00f0 \u00ed umm\u00e6lum, en \u00e9g vil samt l\u00e1ta \u00fea\u00f0 liggja \u00e1 milli hluta. \u00dea\u00f0 er enda r\u00e9tt hj\u00e1 ykkur a\u00f0 vi\u00f0 h\u00f6fum \u00f6ll \u00feessa \u00fe\u00f6rf fyrir f\u00e9lagslega tv\u00edhyggju og skilgreinum \u00f6ll milli okkar og hinna. \u00c9g bendi enda \u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 \u00ed lok greinarinnar a\u00f0 h\u00f6fnun ykkar \u00e1 tv\u00edhyggju \u00ed anda Plat\u00f3 bendi til \u00feess a\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 falli\u00f0 EKKI undir skilgreiningar R. Scott Appleby og Martin E. Marty.<\/p>\n

Ni\u00f0ursta\u00f0a greinar minnar var \u00fev\u00ed \u00ed upphafi og er enn a\u00f0 vegna h\u00f6fnunar ykkar \u00e1 tv\u00edhyggju \u00ed anda Plat\u00f3 s\u00e9u\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 ekki sl\u00edkur h\u00f3pur sem Dr. Appleby og dr. Marty fjalla um. Hins vegar ger\u00f0i \u00e9g \u00fea\u00f0 af sk\u00f6mm minni me\u00f0 v\u00edsan til \u00feess a\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 uppfylltu\u00f0 a\u00f0ra \u00fe\u00e6tti greiningarinnar a\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 v\u00e6ru\u00f0 auglj\u00f3slega cult og v\u00edsa \u00fear til skilgreiningar sem m\u00e1 finna \u00e1 Wikipedia. <\/p>\n

cohesive group of people (often a relatively small and recently founded religious movement) devoted to beliefs or practices that the surrounding culture or society considers to be far outside the mainstream.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

\u00dea\u00f0 var ekki faglegt og enn s\u00ed\u00f0ur fallegt af m\u00e9r, en \u00e9g hef svo sem s\u00e9\u00f0 lj\u00f3tari hluti sag\u00f0a. \ud83d\ude42<\/p>\n

Enn \u00fe\u00e1 a\u00f0 megingagnr\u00fdni ykkar. \u00deannig er fullyr\u00f0ing m\u00edn um valkv\u00e6\u00f0ni s\u00fa sem er gagnr\u00fdniver\u00f0ust. \u00dea\u00f0 er um margt skiljanlegt a\u00f0 ykkur finnist sl\u00edk stimplun neikv\u00e6\u00f0. Hins vegar stend \u00e9g enn vi\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e1 sta\u00f0reynd a\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 einbl\u00edni\u00f0 \u00e1 texta L\u00fathers en hafni\u00f0 t.d. ofurmennskuhugmyndum Nietzsche \u00ed tengslum vi\u00f0 ofs\u00f3knir nasista. \u00dea\u00f0 er sko\u00f0un sem \u00fei\u00f0 megi\u00f0 hafa en gefur \u00ed skin valkv\u00e6\u00f0ni. <\/p>\n

Fullyr\u00f0ingar um a\u00f0 WTC st\u00e6\u00f0i enn\u00fe\u00e1 ef ekki v\u00e6ri fyrir tr\u00faarbr\u00f6g\u00f0 gefur l\u00edka \u00ed skin a\u00f0 \u00f3j\u00f6fnu\u00f0ur og ofbeldi s\u00e9 \u00fev\u00ed sem n\u00e6st einv\u00f6r\u00f0ungu fylgifiskur tr\u00faarbrag\u00f0a. \u00c9g veit a\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 telji\u00f0 a\u00f0 h\u00e9r s\u00e9 of miki\u00f0 lesi\u00f0 inn \u00ed or\u00f0 Dawkins og vera m\u00e1 a\u00f0 svo s\u00e9. Hins vegar einbl\u00edni\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 \u00ed skrifum ykkar \u00e1 Vantr\u00fa \u00e1 \u00feennan \u00fe\u00e1tt ofbeldis en l\u00e1ti\u00f0 liggja milli hluta \u00ed skrifum ykkar f\u00e9lagslegt \u00f3r\u00e9ttl\u00e6ti og misskiptingu. \u00deessi n\u00e1lgun er valkv\u00e6\u00f0 n\u00e1lgun \u00e1 umfj\u00f6llun um ofbeldi.<\/p>\n

\u00c9g bi\u00f0st afs\u00f6kunar \u00e1 a\u00f0 hafa sn\u00fai\u00f0 \u00fat \u00far or\u00f0um Matta. \u00c1st\u00e6\u00f0a \u00feess a\u00f0 \u00e9g horfi jafn miki\u00f0 til hans skrifa og raun ber vitni, er a\u00f0 \u00e9g les samviskusamlega hverja \u00fe\u00e1 f\u00e6rslu sem hann skrifar. Enda eru vangaveltur hans oft \u00e1hugaver\u00f0ar og spennandi, auk \u00feess veruleiki hans r\u00fdmar skemmtilega vi\u00f0 veruleika minn (burts\u00e9\u00f0 fr\u00e1 tr\u00faarsko\u00f0unum, en meira a\u00f0 segja samsama \u00e9g mig vi\u00f0 \u00fdmislegt \u00ed tr\u00faarlegri umfj\u00f6llun hans).<\/p>\n

\u00c9g er \u00f3samm\u00e1la ykkur \u00ed n\u00e1lgun ykkar a\u00f0 gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i og stend vi\u00f0 \u00feau or\u00f0 m\u00edn. Enda byggir \u00f6ll fr\u00e6\u00f0ileg n\u00e1lgun \u00e1 framsetningu tilg\u00e1tna sem s\u00ed\u00f0an eru rannsaka\u00f0ar. \u00deeim tilg\u00e1tum haldi\u00f0 sem standast ranns\u00f3kn, \u00f6\u00f0rum hafna\u00f0. Sl\u00edkar a\u00f0fer\u00f0ir eiga allt eins vi\u00f0 um gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i og a\u00f0rar fr\u00e6\u00f0igreinar.<\/p>\n

\u00deannig a\u00f0 me\u00f0 nokkru sanni m\u00e1 segja a\u00f0 fullyr\u00f0ing m\u00edn um valkv\u00e6\u00f0ni s\u00e9 ekki bygg\u00f0 g\u00edfurlega sterkum r\u00f6kum, en \u00fe\u00f3 er \u00ed grein ykkar h\u00e9r a\u00f0 ofan sterk v\u00edsun til nefndrar valkv\u00e6\u00f0ni \u00fe\u00f3 \u00e1 \u00f6\u00f0ru svi\u00f0i s\u00e9.<\/p>\n

En \u00fea\u00f0 breytir \u00fev\u00ed ekki a\u00f0 vi\u00f0 gagnr\u00fdnum ekki \u00fe\u00e1 tr\u00faleysingja sem vilja beita \u00f6\u00f0rum a\u00f0fer\u00f0um en vi\u00f0.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

J\u00e1 og \u00fea\u00f0 sem \u00e9g gleymdi. \u00cd umfj\u00f6llun minni um algildan sannleika er \u00e9g \u00f3n\u00e1kv\u00e6mur \u00ed n\u00e1lgun minni. Enda er alls ekki r\u00e9tt a\u00f0 segja a\u00f0 \u00fei\u00f0 s\u00e9u\u00f0 b\u00f3kstafstr\u00faar. \u00dei\u00f0 hins vegar geri\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e1 kr\u00f6fu til \u00feeirra sem tr\u00faa og geri\u00f0 l\u00edti\u00f0 \u00far \u00feeim sem eru \u00fea\u00f0 ekki. \u00dei\u00f0 gefi\u00f0 \u00ed skin a\u00f0 \u00feeir s\u00e9u \u00f3hei\u00f0arlegir og \u00e1 fl\u00f3tta. Til a\u00f0 sj\u00e1 d\u00e6mi um \u00feetta m\u00e1 fletta upp hugtakinu gr\u00e6ns\u00e1pugu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i \u00e1 vefnum.<\/p>\n

(Upphaflega birt sem umm\u00e6li \u00e1 Vantr\u00fa.is)<\/em><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

\u00cd kj\u00f6lfar f\u00e6rslunnar minnar Vantr\u00fa skv. kenningum um ja\u00f0arh\u00f3pa birtust \u00e1 Vantr\u00faarvefnum \u00e1g\u00e6t vi\u00f0br\u00f6g\u00f0 vi\u00f0 henni undir yfirskriftinni Feilskot dj\u00e1knans. H\u00e9r fyrir ne\u00f0an er svar mitt vi\u00f0 \u00feeirri grein. En svari\u00f0 birtist upphaflega sem umm\u00e6li \u00e1 Vantr\u00faarvefnum.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wds_primary_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[11,127],"class_list":["post-300","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-islenska","tag-atheists","tag-religion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/300","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=300"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/300\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=300"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=300"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=300"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}