{"id":1712,"date":"2010-07-19T10:20:42","date_gmt":"2010-07-19T14:20:42","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/ispeculate.wpmudev.host\/main\/?p=1712"},"modified":"2010-07-19T10:20:42","modified_gmt":"2010-07-19T14:20:42","slug":"righteous-living-or-hierarchy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/2010\/07\/19\/righteous-living-or-hierarchy\/","title":{"rendered":"Righteous living or Hierarchy"},"content":{"rendered":"<blockquote><p>Concerning those who call themselves Cathari, if they come over to the Catholic and Apostolic Church, the great and holy Synod decrees that they who are ordained shall continue as they are in the clergy. But it is before all things necessary that they should profess in writing that they will observe and follow the dogmas of the Catholic and Apostolic Church; in particular that they will communicate with persons who have been twice married, and with those who having lapsed in persecution have had a period [of penance] laid upon them, and a time [of restoration] fixed so that in all things they will follow the dogmas of the Catholic Church.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>via <a href=\"http:\/\/www.newadvent.org\/fathers\/3801.htm\">CHURCH FATHERS: First Council of Nicaea (A.D. 325)<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p>When reading through The Canons of Nicaea from 325, it is surely interesting how structures and hierarchy take over and questions of righteous and holy living become secondary. As part of that the Canons address very\u00a0thoroughly the right way of the clergy, reminds us that:<\/p>\n<blockquote><p>Let all such practices be utterly done away, and let the\u00a0deacons remain within their own bounds,\u00a0knowing that they are the\u00a0ministers\u00a0of the\u00a0bishop and the inferiors of the\u00a0presbyters. Let them receive the Eucharist according to their order, after the\u00a0presbyters, and let either the\u00a0bishop or the\u00a0presbyter administer to them. Furthermore, let not the\u00a0deacons sit among the\u00a0presbyters, for that is contrary to\u00a0canon\u00a0and order. And if, after this decree, any one shall refuse to\u00a0obey, let him be\u00a0deposed from the\u00a0diaconate.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n<p>One wonders how the word &#8220;inferiors&#8221; made it to a Christian document in 4th Century, and how this rule of sitting in groups fits with Paul.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Concerning those who call themselves Cathari, if they come over to the Catholic and Apostolic Church, the great and holy Synod decrees that they who are ordained shall continue as they are in the clergy. But it is before all things necessary that they should profess in writing that they will observe and follow the &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/2010\/07\/19\/righteous-living-or-hierarchy\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Righteous living or Hierarchy<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wds_primary_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[3],"tags":[31,41,51,89,108,118,154],"class_list":["post-1712","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-english","tag-clergy","tag-creeds","tag-ecumenism","tag-injustice","tag-my-studies","tag-politics","tag-theology"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1712","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1712"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1712\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1712"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1712"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1712"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}