\u00dea\u00f0 vir\u00f0ist tilhneiging sumra h\u00e9r \u00e1 vefnum a\u00f0 stela umr\u00e6\u00f0um, \u00feegar \u00fea\u00f0 gerist \u00e1 eigin vefjum kalla \u00feeir \u00fea\u00f0 troll. En \u00e9g veit ekki hva\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 kallast h\u00e9r, l\u00edklega pirrandi.<\/p>\n
En \u00e9g hef \u00e1kve\u00f0i\u00f0 a\u00f0 f\u00e6ra umr\u00e6\u00f0u um Vinalei\u00f0 og s\u00ed\u00f0k\u00f6lt af f\u00e6rslu um br\u00e9f Menntam\u00e1lar\u00e1\u00f0uneytisins um bann vi\u00f0 fermingarfer\u00f0al\u00f6gum hinga\u00f0:<\/strong><\/p>\n Birgir Baldursson<\/a> @ 22\/11\/2007 02.57<\/span><\/p>\n Ef fulltr\u00faar \u00f3l\u00edkra h\u00f3pa, t.d. kirkjunnar, Si\u00f0menntar e\u00f0a votta Jeh\u00f3va geta ekki teki\u00f0 undir \u00feetta sj\u00f3narmi\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e1 eru \u00feeir \u00ed herfer\u00f0 gegn l\u00edfssko\u00f0unum annarra. Sl\u00edk herfer\u00f0 er stundum nefnd \u201ctr\u00fabo\u00f0\u201d og getur fari\u00f0 fram hvort sem \u00fe\u00fa a\u00f0hyllist kristna tr\u00fa e\u00f0a tr\u00faleysi.<\/p>\n Undarleg \u00e1lyktun \u00fearna. Af hverju m\u00e1 ekki bara gera r\u00e1\u00f0 fyrir a\u00f0 \u00feessu f\u00f3lki finnist a\u00f0 sk\u00f3linn eigi a\u00f0 vera hafinn yfir tr\u00faarstarf, s\u00e9 verndarsv\u00e6\u00f0i fr\u00e1 tr\u00faarinnr\u00e6tingu? \u00cd \u00fev\u00ed felst alls ekki nein krafa um a\u00f0 ekki skuli fr\u00e6\u00f0a um<\/strong> tr\u00faarbr\u00f6g\u00f0 og tr\u00faararf, en a\u00f0koma tr\u00faf\u00e9laga a\u00f0 sk\u00f3lum \u00e1 s\u00e9r einfaldlega enga m\u00e1lsv\u00f6rn.<\/p>\n \u00deeir foreldrar sem vilja a\u00f0 b\u00f6rn s\u00edn f\u00e1i tr\u00faarinnr\u00e6tingu geta vel sett \u00feau \u00ed hendurnar \u00e1 \u00feeirri kirkju\/k\u00f6ltstarfsemi sem \u00feeir kj\u00f3sa. En sl\u00edkt \u00e1 au\u00f0vita\u00f0 ekki a\u00f0 k\u00e1fa upp \u00e1 sk\u00f3lastarfi\u00f0, enda er tr\u00fa einfaldlega einkam\u00e1l f\u00f3lks. Og n\u00f3g er til a\u00f0 tr\u00faf\u00e9lagabyggingum til a\u00f0 stunda \u00feetta innr\u00e6tingarstarf. Hva\u00f0 r\u00e9ttl\u00e6tir a\u00f0 tr\u00faf\u00e9l\u00f6gum s\u00e9 hleypt inn \u00ed sk\u00f3labyggingarnar l\u00edka?<\/p>\n Myndir\u00f0u vilja sj\u00e1 Vinalei\u00f0arskrifstofu V\u00edsindaspekikirkjunnar \u00ed \u00f6llum sk\u00f3labyggingum? E\u00f0a s\u00e1lfr\u00e6\u00f0i\u00fej\u00f3nustu satanista? Nei, \u00e9g h\u00e9lt ekki. Af hverju \u00e1 \u00fe\u00e1 [url=http:\/\/www.vantru.is\/2007\/11\/18\/08.00\/]s\u00ed\u00f0k\u00f6lti\u00f0[\/url] evangel\u00edsk l\u00fatersk kirkja a\u00f0 f\u00e1 a\u00f0 valsa \u00fearna um ganga?<\/p>\n Halld\u00f3r E<\/a> @ 22\/11\/2007 04.55<\/span><\/p>\n \u00c9g s\u00e9 ekki a\u00f0 neinn \u00ed \u00feessari umr\u00e6\u00f0u s\u00e9 a\u00f0 \u00f3ska eftir beinni a\u00f0komu a\u00f0 kirkjunnar a\u00f0 daglegu starfi sk\u00f3lans. Hins vegar er bent \u00e1 mikilv\u00e6gi \u00feess a\u00f0 sk\u00f3linn vi\u00f0urkenni a\u00f0 innan hans s\u00e9u einstaklingar me\u00f0 mismunandi l\u00edfssko\u00f0anir sem \u00e6skilegt er a\u00f0 taka tillit til \u00ed sk\u00f3lastarfi.<\/p>\n Carlos<\/a> @ 22\/11\/2007 17.51<\/span><\/p>\n \u00c9g veit bara a\u00f0 prestar eru ekki hagsmunaa\u00f0ilar (nema fj\u00e1rhagslega, \u00feeir gr\u00e6\u00f0a \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 ferma). Meira \u00fearf \u00e9g ekki a\u00f0 vita.<\/p><\/blockquote>\n D\u00e1l\u00edti\u00f0 \u00fereytt hva\u00f0 \u00fe\u00fa heldur a\u00f0 \u00fe\u00fa komist upp me\u00f0 \u00f3d\u00fdr skot, Matti. \u00de\u00fa heldur, a\u00f0 fyrst prestar taki fr\u00e6\u00f0slugjald af fj\u00f6lskyldum fermingarbarna, \u00fe\u00e1 s\u00e9 \u00fea\u00f0 einu hagsmunirnir sem \u00feeir geti haft? J\u00e1, og a\u00f0 innr\u00e6ta b\u00f6rnum hina ska\u00f0legu l\u00edfssko\u00f0un sem \u00fe\u00fa og Birgir og fleiri kalli\u00f0 \u201cs\u00ed\u00f0k\u00f6lt\u201d og \u00f6\u00f0rum ni\u00f0randi n\u00f6fnum.<\/p>\n Hvernig v\u00e6ri \u00fe\u00e1 a\u00f0 gera \u00f6kukennara a\u00f0 eiginhagsmunarpoturum fyrir \u00fea\u00f0 eitt a\u00f0 \u00feeir taka gjald fyrir kennsluna? E\u00f0a m\u00e1 kannski \u00e6tla a\u00f0 gjaldtakan \u00fatiloki ekki umhyggju fyrir velfer\u00f0 nemandans, b\u00e6\u00f0i hj\u00e1 \u00f6kukennaranum og prestinum.<\/p>\n Birgir spyr<\/p>\n Myndir\u00f0u vilja sj\u00e1 Vinalei\u00f0arskrifstofu V\u00edsindaspekikirkjunnar \u00ed \u00f6llum sk\u00f3labyggingum? E\u00f0a s\u00e1lfr\u00e6\u00f0i\u00fej\u00f3nustu satanista? Nei, \u00e9g h\u00e9lt ekki. Af hverju \u00e1 \u00fe\u00e1 s\u00ed\u00f0k\u00f6lti\u00f0 evangel\u00edsk l\u00fatersk kirkja a\u00f0 f\u00e1 a\u00f0 valsa \u00fearna um ganga?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n \u00deetta samtal hefur hann \u00e1tt vi\u00f0 mig og fleiri \u00e1\u00f0ur og svari\u00f0 er enn\u00fe\u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 sama:<\/p>\n Inn \u00ed sk\u00f3lann geta \u00feeir komi\u00f0, sem \u00e1 grundvelli mannvir\u00f0ingar og \u00e1 forsendum sk\u00f3lans eru bo\u00f0nir velkomnir.<\/strong> Sj\u00e1 n\u00e1nar a\u00f0aln\u00e1msskr\u00e1 grunnsk\u00f3lans og framhaldssk\u00f3lans.<\/p>\n Hvorki satanistar, v\u00edsindakirkjumenn, nasistar, f\u00e9lag gu\u00f0lausra f\u00f3tboltabullna n\u00e9 r\u00f3tt\u00e6ki armur hj\u00e1lpr\u00e6\u00f0ishersins (sbr. Austin Powers) falla undir \u00fe\u00e1 skilgreiningu, e\u00f0a hva\u00f0? \u00c9g h\u00e9lt ekki.<\/p>\n En \u201cs\u00ed\u00f0k\u00f6lti\u00f0\u201d svokalla\u00f0a gerir \u00fea\u00f0. Af hverju \u00e6tli \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9? Af hef\u00f0inni einni saman? E\u00f0a af \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 sk\u00f3laf\u00f3lk treystir \u00fev\u00ed almennt, a\u00f0 \u00fej\u00f3\u00f0kirkjan og a\u00f0rar h\u00f3fstilltar kirkjur kunni leikreglur l\u00fd\u00f0r\u00e6\u00f0is og vir\u00f0a mannr\u00e9ttindi?<\/p>\n Hjalti R\u00fanar \u00d3marsson @ 22\/11\/2007 18.24<\/span><\/p>\n Carlos, \u00e9g held a\u00f0 \u00feetta s\u00e9 ekki r\u00e9tti sta\u00f0urinn til \u00feess a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a \u00fea\u00f0 (tengist ekki beint umr\u00e6\u00f0uefninu), en \u00e9g myndi gjarnan vilja heyra \u00fatsk\u00fdringu \u00fe\u00edna \u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed hvers vegna \u00fe\u00fa telur n\u00fdyr\u00f0i\u00f0 s\u00ed\u00f0k\u00f6lt ekki eiga vi\u00f0 kristni.<\/p>\n Carlos<\/a> @ 22\/11\/2007 20.51<\/span><\/p>\n \u00c9g hef skili\u00f0 or\u00f0i\u00f0 \u201ccult\u201d \u00ed me\u00f0 skilningi s\u00e1lfr\u00e6\u00f0innar<\/a> og f\u00e9lagsfr\u00e6\u00f0innar<\/a> s\u00ed\u00f0an \u00ed menntask\u00f3la og gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0in\u00e1m hefur engu breytt \u00fear um. Tek ekki \u00e1byrg\u00f0 \u00e1 skilgreiningu Wikipediu en v\u00edsa \u00ed hana m\u00e1li m\u00ednu til sk\u00fdringar.<\/p>\n Svo er \u00e1g\u00e6tis p\u00e6ling hj\u00e1 \u00feessum bloggara<\/a> um m\u00e1li\u00f0 og merkingarlega hle\u00f0slu (m\u00f6guleika \u00e1 v\u00edsvitandi mei\u00f0ingum) samfara notkun or\u00f0sins (=pejorative). \u00deetta er svo sem ekkert sem \u00e6tti a\u00f0 koma \u00fe\u00e9r, Matta, Birgi e\u00f0a \u00f6\u00f0rum \u201c\u00f6ldungum vantr\u00faarsafna\u00f0arins\u201d \u00e1 \u00f3vart.<\/p>\n Halld\u00f3r El\u00edas<\/a> @ 23\/11\/2007 02.26<\/span><\/p>\n Ef \u00e1hugi er a\u00f0 halda \u00e1fram umr\u00e6\u00f0um um gildishla\u00f0in or\u00f0 og tilraunir til a\u00f0 mei\u00f0a me\u00f0 hl\u00f6\u00f0num or\u00f0um bi\u00f0 \u00e9g um a\u00f0 henni ver\u00f0i haldi\u00f0 \u00e1fram annars sta\u00f0ar.<\/p>\n Matti<\/a> @ 23\/11\/2007 09.12<\/span><\/p>\n En \u201cs\u00ed\u00f0k\u00f6lti\u00f0\u201d svokalla\u00f0a gerir \u00fea\u00f0. Af hverju \u00e6tli \u00fea\u00f0 s\u00e9? Af hef\u00f0inni einni saman? E\u00f0a af \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 sk\u00f3laf\u00f3lk treystir \u00fev\u00ed almennt, a\u00f0 \u00fej\u00f3\u00f0kirkjan og a\u00f0rar h\u00f3fstilltar kirkjur kunni leikreglur l\u00fd\u00f0r\u00e6\u00f0is og vir\u00f0a mannr\u00e9ttindi?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n Reyndar hefur margsinni\u00f0 komi\u00f0 \u00ed lj\u00f3s a\u00f0 \u00dej\u00f3\u00f0kirkjan kann ekki leikreglur l\u00fd\u00f0r\u00e6\u00f0is og vir\u00f0ir ekki mannr\u00e9ttindi. Um \u00fea\u00f0 sn\u00fdst t.d. deildan um Vinalei\u00f0 og leiksk\u00f3lapresta.<\/p>\n En af hverju \u00e6tli kirkjan hafi komist upp me\u00f0 \u00feetta hinga\u00f0 til? \u00cd fyrsta lagi hafi \u00edt\u00f6k hennar veri\u00f0 gr\u00ed\u00f0arlega sterk. \u00cd \u00f6\u00f0ru lagi hafa f\u00e1ir \u00feora\u00f0 a\u00f0 m\u00f3tm\u00e6la, \u00feeir sem hafa m\u00f3tm\u00e6lt hafa strax veri\u00f0 afgreiddir sem rugludallar. \u00deeir hafa ekki haft neina h\u00f3pa til a\u00f0 s\u00e6kja s\u00e9r stu\u00f0ning \u00ed – fyrr en n\u00fa s\u00ed\u00f0ustu \u00e1r. \u00cd \u00feri\u00f0ja lagi hefur tr\u00faa\u00f0 sk\u00f3laf\u00f3lk \u00feverbroti\u00f0 grunnsk\u00f3lal\u00f6g. \u00cd fj\u00f3r\u00f0a lagi hefur b\u00f3kstaflega veri\u00f0 logi\u00f0 \u00feegar kirkjan hefur veri\u00f0 a\u00f0 tro\u00f0a s\u00e9r inn. \u00deannig er fari\u00f0 af sta\u00f0 me\u00f0 fagurgala og lofor\u00f0um, en \u00feegar fram l\u00ed\u00f0ur t\u00edminn kemur \u00ed lj\u00f3s a\u00f0 tilgangur starfsins er allt annar en \u00fea\u00f0 sem lagt var upp me\u00f0.<\/p>\n Carlos<\/a> @ 23\/11\/2007 14.36<\/span><\/p>\n \u00cd deilunni um Vinalei\u00f0ina, kom \u00ed lj\u00f3s a\u00f0 a) kirkjan kom \u00ed sk\u00f3lann \u00e1 forsendum sk\u00f3lans, f\u00f3r a\u00f0 l\u00f6gum um grunnsk\u00f3la og virti mannr\u00e9ttindi barnanna, l\u00edka \u00feeirra sem ekki vildu afskipti kirkjunnar og b) \u00fer\u00e1tt fyrir har\u00f0a andst\u00f6\u00f0u Vantr\u00faar og Si\u00f0menntar hefur ekki veri\u00f0 s\u00fdnt fram \u00e1 \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 framkv\u00e6md Vinalei\u00f0ar brj\u00f3ti \u00ed b\u00e1ga vi\u00f0 l\u00f6g e\u00f0a almenn mannr\u00e9ttindi hagsmunaa\u00f0ila. \u00cd umr\u00e6\u00f0unni um \u00fej\u00f3nustu presta \u00ed leiksk\u00f3lum \u00fe\u00e1 er lj\u00f3st a\u00f0 opinber stefna kirkjunnar<\/a>, leitast vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 halda sig innan ramma grunnsk\u00f3lalaga. Einstaka s\u00f3knir kunna a\u00f0 ganga lengra en sumum finnst r\u00e9tt. \u00dea\u00f0 er \u00fe\u00e1 tilefni til gagnr\u00fdni \u00e1 grundvelli \u00feess tilviks.<\/p>\n Afgangurinn af aths. \u00feinni, Matti eru dylgjur, \u00f3r\u00f6kstuddar og svo almennar, a\u00f0 ekki er h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 r\u00e6\u00f0a \u00fe\u00e6r.<\/p>\n