{"id":1083,"date":"2006-09-09T16:29:55","date_gmt":"2006-09-09T16:29:55","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/elli.annall.is\/2006-09-09\/16.29.55"},"modified":"2006-09-09T16:29:55","modified_gmt":"2006-09-09T16:29:55","slug":"162955","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/2006\/09\/09\/162955\/","title":{"rendered":"Umr\u00e6\u00f0ur um gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i"},"content":{"rendered":"

\u00c9g \u00e1tti \u00ed morgun \u00e1g\u00e6tt netspjall vi\u00f0 Arnold \u00e1 vefs\u00ed\u00f0unni Vantru.is<\/a>. \u00dear sem textarnir m\u00ednur voru \u00ed lengra lagi og taka a\u00f0 m\u00ednu mati \u00e1 \u00e1hugaver\u00f0um vangaveltum. \u00de\u00e1 \u00e6tla \u00e9g a\u00f0 halda m\u00ednum hluta \u00feeirra til haga h\u00e9r \u00e1 ann\u00e1lnum m\u00ednum, \u00e9g sleppi \u00fe\u00f3 minna gagnlegum athugasemdum. Umr\u00e6\u00f0ur okkar \u00ed heild sinni tilheyra svarhalanum vi\u00f0 greinina Nei, \u00d6rn B\u00e1r\u00f0ur, \u00fer\u00f3unarkenningin er ekki tilg\u00e1ta<\/a>. Innlegg Arnolds eru inndreginn.<\/p>\n

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Einnig \u00feessi \u00e1r\u00e1tta kristinna a\u00f0 setja m\u00e1l sitt fram \u00ed mj\u00f6g \u00f3lj\u00f3su m\u00e1li. \u00de.e. a\u00f0 ekkert er b\u00f3kstaflegt heldur ber a\u00f0 t\u00falka textann, anna\u00f0 hvort \u00ed lj\u00f3si krists e\u00f0a \u00ed samtali vi\u00f0 samt\u00edmann. Ef v\u00edsindin hef\u00f0u tami\u00f0 s\u00e9r svona vinnubr\u00f6g\u00f0 hvar v\u00e6ri \u00fe\u00e1 mankyni\u00f0 statt \u00ed dag?<\/p>\n

Gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0in og Kirkjan eru eins og rekald sem hrekst undan storminum. Stormurinn er \u00feekkingin.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Vi\u00f0br\u00f6g\u00f0 1:<\/strong> [\u00de]a\u00f0 er hinn v\u00edsindalega a\u00f0fer\u00f0, for\u00f0ast fullyr\u00f0ingar, og rannsaka hugmyndir okkar og skilning \u00ed samtali vi\u00f0 a\u00f0ra vitneskju. St\u00f6\u00f0nu\u00f0 b\u00f3kstafshyggja er einmitt andst\u00e6\u00f0a v\u00edsindalegrar hugsunar.
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\u00c9g \u00e1tta mig ekki \u00e1 hvernig \u00fe\u00fa getur dregi\u00f0 \u00feessa \u00e1lyktun af skeyti m\u00ednu. \u00c9g er einmitt a\u00f0 gagnr\u00fdna a\u00f0 ekki s\u00e9u i\u00f0ka\u00f0ar v\u00edsindalegar a\u00f0fer\u00f0ir \u00ed Gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0inni.<\/p>\n

D\u00e6mi: H\u00e9r h\u00f6fum vi\u00f0 tr\u00faarlegann texta \u00far bibl\u00edunni. Hann er hrakinn me\u00f0 gildum r\u00f6kum. \u00cd sta\u00f0 \u00feess a\u00f0 vi\u00f0urkenna rangindinn er sn\u00fai\u00f0 \u00fat\u00far me\u00f0 n\u00fdrri t\u00falkun \u00e1 b\u00f3ksafnum oft \u00e1n r\u00f6kstu\u00f0nings. \u00deetta finnst m\u00e9r ekki vera einl\u00e6g leit a\u00f0 sannleikanum og alls ekki v\u00edsindaleg a\u00f0fer\u00f0afr\u00e6\u00f0i.<\/p>\n

Fullyr\u00f0ing er ekki tekin gild \u00ed v\u00edsindum nema a\u00f0 h\u00fan s\u00e9 vel r\u00f6kstudd, en \u00fev\u00ed er \u00f6fugt fari\u00f0 hj\u00e1 kristinum \u00fe.e. fullyr\u00f0ing er gild \u00fear til einhver annar afsannar hana og oft dugir \u00fea\u00f0 ekki til.<\/p>\n

Gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0in kemur m\u00e9r fyrir sj\u00f3nir sem fr\u00e6\u00f0igrein sem hefur l\u00edtinn annan tilgang en a\u00f0 r\u00e9ttl\u00e6ta tilveru s\u00edna, \u00fev\u00ed undirst\u00f6urnar ( Bibl\u00edan ) eru svo veikar a\u00f0 af \u00feeim er l\u00edtill stu\u00f0ningur.<\/p>\n

\u00c9g hef\u00f0i frekar \u00e1tt a\u00f0 or\u00f0a \u00feetta svona.<\/p>\n

Tilg\u00e1ta er ekki tekin gild \u00ed v\u00edsindum nema a\u00f0 h\u00fan s\u00e9 vel r\u00f6kstudd, en \u00fev\u00ed er \u00f6fugt fari\u00f0 hj\u00e1 kristinum \u00fe.e. fullyr\u00f0ing er gild \u00fear til einhver annar afsannar hana og oft dugir \u00fea\u00f0 ekki til.<\/strong><\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Vi\u00f0br\u00f6g\u00f0 2:<\/strong> \u00cd v\u00edsindum er gengi\u00f0 \u00fat fr\u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 vitneskja sem er studd r\u00f6kum s\u00e9 s\u00f6nn nema gegn henni gangi gild r\u00f6k. \u00c9g s\u00e9 ekki a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed s\u00e9 \u00f6\u00f0ruv\u00edsi fari\u00f0 \u00ed gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i. Reyndar er tv\u00e6r af frumsendum margra gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0inga umdeildar, en \u00fea\u00f0 \u00e1 l\u00edka vi\u00f0 um frumsendur t.d. \u00ed st\u00e6r\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i. En \u00fea\u00f0 a\u00f0 frumsendur s\u00e9u umdeildar gerir \u00fe\u00e6r alls ekki \u00f3gildar e\u00f0a \u00f3noth\u00e6far \u00ed v\u00edsindalegri umr\u00e6\u00f0u. N\u00fa veit \u00e9g ekki hvar og hven\u00e6r \u00fe\u00fa hefur kynnt \u00fe\u00e9r a\u00f0fer\u00f0afr\u00e6\u00f0i gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0innar, en s\u00fa a\u00f0fer\u00f0afr\u00e6\u00f0i hefur \u00fe\u00f3 fram yfir \u00fdmsar a\u00f0rar fr\u00e6\u00f0igreinar a\u00f0 leita \u00ed smi\u00f0ju annarra greina og sam\u00fe\u00e6tta skilning og vitneskju. \u00de\u00e1tt sem skortir oft t.d. \u00ed hagfr\u00e6\u00f0i. \u00dea\u00f0 a\u00f0 skilningur \u00e1 inntaki texta \u00fer\u00f3ist og m\u00f3tist \u00ed gegnum s\u00f6guna er mj\u00f6g e\u00f0lilegt. Ef sl\u00edk \u00fer\u00f3un og m\u00f3tun \u00e6tti s\u00e9r ekki sta\u00f0 \u00ed gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i l\u00edkt og \u00f6\u00f0rum v\u00edsindum hvar v\u00e6rum vi\u00f0 \u00fe\u00e1?<\/p>\n

Halld\u00f3r, hvert er markmi\u00f0 og tilgangur gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0innar? Eins og \u00feetta virkar \u00e1 mig \u00fe\u00e1 er tilgangurinn a\u00f0 a\u00f0laga gu\u00f0s or\u00f0 ( bibl\u00eduna )a\u00f0 t\u00ed\u00f0arnadanum hverju sinni. Hvers vegna \u00fearf \u00feess? Hv\u00ed er \u00feessi texti ( or\u00f0 gu\u00f0s ) svo veikur a\u00f0 hann stenst \u00edlla t\u00edmans t\u00f6nn. Hvers vegna a\u00f0 reyna a\u00f0 r\u00e9ttl\u00e6ta bo\u00f0skap bibl\u00edunar, \u00fe.e. \u00feann part hennar sem ekki getur talist si\u00f0fer\u00f0ilega r\u00e9ttl\u00e6tanlegur. Afhverju ekki einfaldlega a\u00f0 hafna honum?<\/p><\/blockquote>\n

Vi\u00f0br\u00f6g\u00f0 3:<\/strong> Markmi\u00f0 gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0innar er \u00feekkingaraukning l\u00edkt og annarra v\u00edsindagreina. Markmi\u00f0 einstakra gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0inga eru hins vegar um margt \u00f3l\u00edk l\u00edkt og hj\u00e1 fr\u00e6\u00f0im\u00f6nnum \u00ed \u00f6llum v\u00edsindagreinum. \u00deannig get \u00e9g ekki svara\u00f0 spurningunum nema fyrir sj\u00e1lfan mig, og \u00e9g telst n\u00fa ekki einn af meiri gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0ingum heimsins, ekki einu sinni \u00e1 \u00cdslandi. Frumsendurnar sem \u00e9g gef m\u00e9r eru \u00fe\u00e6r a\u00f0 Gu\u00f0 s\u00e9 til, Bibl\u00edan s\u00e9 vitnisbur\u00f0ur um \u00feennan Gu\u00f0. \u00c9g geng \u00fat fr\u00e1 \u00feessum frumsendum \u00ed leit minni a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed hvernig heimurinn s\u00e9, hvernig vi\u00f0 getum \u00fatsk\u00fdrt heg\u00f0un einstaklinga og s\u00ed\u00f0ast en ekki s\u00edst til a\u00f0 skilja betur \u00feann Gu\u00f0 sem \u00e9g geng \u00fat fr\u00e1 a\u00f0 s\u00e9 til. \u00dear notast \u00e9g vi\u00f0 a\u00f0fer\u00f0afr\u00e6\u00f0i og vitneskju \u00far mismunandi \u00e1ttum. Meginspurningin \u00fe\u00edn er af hverju \u00e9g hafni ekki Bibl\u00edu\u00fe\u00e6ttinum sem annarri af frumforsendum m\u00ednum. Fyrir \u00fev\u00ed eru margar \u00e1st\u00e6\u00f0ur, \u00fer\u00e1tt fyrir allt sem Vantr\u00faarmenn hafa veri\u00f0 duglegir vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 benda \u00e1, \u00fe\u00e1 er \u00ed m\u00ednum huga rau\u00f0ur \u00fer\u00e1\u00f0ur og heildarmynd sem bendir m\u00e9r \u00e1 \u00feann Gu\u00f0 sem \u00e9g tr\u00fai \u00e1. \u00deegar \u00e9g les Bibl\u00eduna er \u00e9g hins vegar me\u00f0vita\u00f0ur um a\u00f0 ritunart\u00edmi, \u00fej\u00f3\u00f0f\u00e9lagsger\u00f0, f\u00e9lagsm\u00f3tun ritara og t\u00e6kni\u00feekking var \u00f6nnur en er \u00ed dag. \u00c9g tr\u00fai \u00fev\u00ed hins vegar a\u00f0 ritararnir hafi \u00ed einl\u00e6gni leitast vi\u00f0 a\u00f0 gefa vitnisbur\u00f0 um Gu\u00f0, og s\u00e1 hinn sami Gu\u00f0 hafi leitt skrif \u00feeirra og hj\u00e1lpa\u00f0 \u00feeim a\u00f0 skrifa inn \u00ed \u00fe\u00e6r a\u00f0st\u00e6\u00f0ur sem \u00feeir lif\u00f0u \u00ed. \u00deessi skrif s\u00e9 h\u00e6gt a\u00f0 skilja og nota til m\u00f3tunar \u00e1 Gu\u00f0smynd samt\u00edmans, ef vi\u00f0 erum tilb\u00fain til a\u00f0 kynna okkur \u00fea\u00f0 umhverfi sem \u00feau eru sprottin \u00far. Einhverjir gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0ingar eru annarrar sko\u00f0unar og \u00fea\u00f0 er fullt af f\u00f3lki sem hafnar frumsendunni a\u00f0 Gu\u00f0 s\u00e9 til. \u00deetta reyni \u00e9g a\u00f0 vir\u00f0a, en misl\u00edkar reyndar \u00feegar h\u00f6fnun \u00feeirra kallar \u00fe\u00e1 sem n\u00e1lgast heiminn \u00e1 annan h\u00e1tt, aumingja, missindismenn, lygara e\u00f0a fl\u00f3ttaf\u00f3lk. V\u00e6ri au\u00f0veldara a\u00f0 hafna Bibl\u00edunni alfari\u00f0 og \u00f6llum skrifum hennar? Fyrir einhverja, j\u00e1, \u00fe\u00e1 er \u00fea\u00f0 sj\u00e1lfsagt \u00e1g\u00e6t lei\u00f0. Hins vegar geng \u00e9g \u00fat fr\u00e1 tilvist Gu\u00f0s og tr\u00fai \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 hann hafi n\u00e1lgast okkur \u00ed Jes\u00fa Kristi. \u00dea\u00f0 ney\u00f0ir mig til a\u00f0 gl\u00edma vi\u00f0 Bibl\u00eduna sem rit sem birtir m\u00e9r \u00feennan Jes\u00fa Krist. Til a\u00f0 hafna Bibl\u00edunni alfari\u00f0 \u00feyrfti \u00e9g l\u00edka a\u00f0 hafna Gu\u00f0str\u00fa minni. F\u00e6r lei\u00f0, hugsanlega, en \u00fear sem s\u00fa tr\u00fa m\u00f3tar mannskilning minn, samskipti vi\u00f0 a\u00f0ra, skapger\u00f0 m\u00edna og atferli allt. \u00de\u00e1 er sl\u00edkt mj\u00f6g fjarri m\u00e9r, enda \u00ed sj\u00e1lfu s\u00e9r ekkert sem bendir til \u00feess a\u00f0 frumsendur m\u00ednar s\u00e9u rangar.<\/p>\n

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” v\u00edsindum er gengi\u00f0 \u00fat fr\u00e1 \u00fev\u00ed a\u00f0 vitneskja sem er studd r\u00f6kum s\u00e9 s\u00f6nn nema gegn henni gangi gild r\u00f6k. \u00c9g s\u00e9 ekki a\u00f0 \u00fev\u00ed s\u00e9 \u00f6\u00f0ruv\u00edsi fari\u00f0 \u00ed gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i.”<\/p>\n

Halld\u00f3r. Er sk\u00f6punarsagan\/kenningin studd v\u00edsndalegum r\u00f6kum og athugunum? Ef ekki er \u00fe\u00e1 ekki r\u00e9tt a\u00f0 hafna henni?<\/p>\n

\u00c9g \u00feakka \u00fe\u00e9r Halld\u00f3r, \u00fea\u00f0 er skemtilegt a\u00f0 eiga vi\u00f0 \u00feig samr\u00e6\u00f0ur.<\/p>\n

\u00de\u00fa skrifar: “Til a\u00f0 hafna Bibl\u00edunni alfari\u00f0 \u00feyrfti \u00e9g l\u00edka a\u00f0 hafna Gu\u00f0str\u00fa minni.”<\/p>\n

Afhverju \u00fearftu a\u00f0 hafna gu\u00f0i ef \u00fe\u00fa hafnar bibl\u00edunni? Ef bibl\u00edan er t\u00falkun manna \u00e1 Gu\u00f0i g\u00e6tir \u00fe\u00fa ekki alveg eins komi\u00f0 fram me\u00f0 \u00fe\u00edna t\u00falkun \u00f3h\u00e1\u00f0a bibl\u00edunn. Eing\u00f6ngu bygg\u00f0a \u00e1 \u00feinni upplifun af Gu\u00f0i? H\u00fan v\u00e6ri ekkert rangari en t\u00falkun \u00feeirra sem ritu\u00f0u bibl\u00eduna, \u00fev\u00ed eins og \u00e9g skil \u00feig \u00fe\u00e1 er tr\u00fa mj\u00f6g pers\u00f3nulegt fyrirb\u00e6ri og \u00fev\u00ed erfitt a\u00f0 fullyr\u00f0a hva\u00f0 er r\u00e9tt og hva\u00f0 er rangt \u00ed \u00feessum efnum.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n

Vi\u00f0br\u00f6g\u00f0 4:<\/strong> A\u00f0 nota sk\u00f6punars\u00f6guna sem uppl\u00fdsingar um HVERNIG Gu\u00f0 skapa\u00f0i heiminn er fr\u00e1leit hugmynd og \u00feeir sem t\u00f3ku saman Genesis-riti\u00f0, vir\u00f0ast hafa tali\u00f0 \u00fea\u00f0 einnig \u00fear sem \u00ed fyrstu \u00feremur k\u00f6flunum eru tv\u00e6r mismunandi sk\u00f6punarfr\u00e1sagnir. Tilraunir til sl\u00edks b\u00f3kstafstr\u00faarlesturs til m\u00f3tv\u00e6gis vi\u00f0 v\u00edsindaranns\u00f3knir er fr\u00e1leitur.
Hins vegar hafna \u00e9g ekki sk\u00f6punars\u00f6gunni og \u00fev\u00ed megininntaki hennar a\u00f0 Gu\u00f0 hafi skapa\u00f0 heiminn og ALLT sem \u00ed heiminum er, \u00fea\u00f0 er einfaldlega tvennt \u00f3l\u00edkt. Sk\u00f6punarsagan er ekki skrifu\u00f0 af fr\u00e9ttariturum \u00e1 st
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\u00c9g \u00e1tti \u00ed morgun \u00e1g\u00e6tt netspjall vi\u00f0 Arnold \u00e1 vefs\u00ed\u00f0unni Vantru.is. \u00dear sem textarnir m\u00ednur voru \u00ed lengra lagi og taka a\u00f0 m\u00ednu mati \u00e1 \u00e1hugaver\u00f0um vangaveltum. \u00de\u00e1 \u00e6tla \u00e9g a\u00f0 halda m\u00ednum hluta \u00feeirra til haga h\u00e9r \u00e1 ann\u00e1lnum m\u00ednum, \u00e9g sleppi \u00fe\u00f3 minna gagnlegum athugasemdum. Umr\u00e6\u00f0ur okkar \u00ed heild sinni tilheyra svarhalanum vi\u00f0 … Continue reading Umr\u00e6\u00f0ur um gu\u00f0fr\u00e6\u00f0i<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"wds_primary_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[11,127],"class_list":["post-1083","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-islenska","tag-atheists","tag-religion"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1083","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=1083"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/1083\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=1083"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=1083"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/ispeculate.net\/writings\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=1083"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}